Although inundated with numerous arseholes, every now and again along comes an arsehole who distinguishes himself to such a level that he actually raises the bar for arseholes everywhere. It’s a tough gig indeed, but someone’s got to do it, and when it’s done to heights of this magnificently impressive magnitude it does not deserve to go unnoticed. Step forth Floyed Thursby – new-crowned King of the Arseholes.
In the series of messages below, you will see how self-confessed sex addict Floyed becomes increasingly irate as he reads his way through my blog and finds his habitual paid access to females’ vagina’s challenged.
Now let’s not be too tough on poor Floyed – there is the recognition of a skill to be observed here. It is not easy to raise the bar of arseholery given the proliferation of that particular talent in this world. To you Floyed – thank you for the entertainment – and to everyone else: Welcome to THE FLOYED THURSBY DIARIES!!!
Received on April 24th, 2015:
“I think it’s ridiculous to claim all prostitutes are victims. Plenty of women would rather have sex for an hour than work 20 or 30 hours making lattes and sandwiches and change and mopping. You get a whole two free days. Or you pay for college, 8% of women born to the bottom 20% in the US end up with a degree compared to 73% of the top 20%, so some want to sacrifice to move up a class and have more income, some want time for art, some choose, yes choose, to do drugs. You will always have some women who like sex and some women are offering this to men they know and find reasonably attractive others will see anyone. Some women offer it to an ex boyfriend or boss or rich guy they know as an arrangement. Now if women are paid horribly, many will do it for little, but even in a society with no drugs, good education, universal health care, people like easy money. If it gets to a certain price, women will choose it. Women in California make 200-300 if attractive for an hour, vs. $10 at minimum wage. At 500, many more would step in. At 1000, over 25% and an economist showed at $4000, half of women would do it. If the world is starving it would be $50. So let’s be realistic. Men enjoy sex and can’t get it and everyone enjoys money. You chose to do this, and being bitter is silly. You can work minimum wage and go to night school and take 10 years to get a degree or just live at a lower income. You chose to do this. Maybe you were trafficked, if so pimps and those forcing you should go to prison, but consenting adults, women and men, should be free. Prostitution will always be with us. Women go out and have casual sex with the small number of guys who are misogynistic flashy assholes. If the rest want sex, they often have to pay or go long periods without which is unhealthy. These are the facts, and they are undisputed.”
I will be choosing a particular favourite line from each post. The winning line here is:
“These are the facts, and they are undisputed!” (Floyed forgot to add an exclamation mark, so I helped him out with that)
Received on April 25th, 2015:
This whole thought process is an outgrowth of the religious idea of sex being an act of men victimizing women by sex, not enjoyment. Women charge for sex because they can and because it’s better than homelessness and you can make in one hour what you could make in 20, 30 or more. Men pay because only about 10% of men can consistently get one night stands and some men who have hard jobs or want to hang out with friends or have hobbies find girlfriends overly controlling and appeasing them to keep their sex life alive depresses them and makes their life less enjoyable. Sex is economic, in relationships women use it to control men. Men don’t hate wome; women consider 86% of men on dating sites “below average” and men see hot women on TV having sex all the time but in reality the average woman sleeps with 8 guys in a lifetime and they are mostly reserved for men all women want. Simply put men are told to fantasize about sex with a hot woman constantly, on TV radio, billboards books, even in public where women dress provocatively for attention, movies, the Internet, etc., but most can never enjoy that unless they pay. Men need sex, simply put. If women need it, the average woman can just go out to a bar and get sex any time, any place. If they couldn’t, some women would sometimes pay men, but they don’t have to. Some lesbians pay women because they have to. Women claimed in the ’60s they’d be like men about sex but they aren’t, they put men through a lot to get it and don’t even consider the vast majority of men at all. Eventually those men marry and get pussy whipped to the point where you don’t recognize them. Some men would rather pay 200-300 for a model than go on 3 dates with an average woman for a maybe, and believe me 3 dates is not a guarantee, more like 50/50. Women make excuses to avoid sex and don’t seek it out as an exciting thing. A high percentage of women would rather make 200-300 in an hour and study, do art or relax all day, I’ve come across lethargic prostitutes who are hot but like to sit around all day and do it with a guy all day. Sure, no one wants strange penises, but no one WANTS to make lattes, mop, make change and make sandwiches for money they can barely survive on. If you don’t want to do it, don’t, men don’t have this option, but more men become homeless and commit crimes and go to prison. If you don’t want to do it don’t, and if you’re trafficked tell the police, but don’t try to make all men feel guilty becuse YOU chose to sacrifice sex so you could live comfortably and have a lot of money. Many women want to do this and so do many men. Dating is qute frankly nearly harassment these days, and futile, and I’m a good looking guy with a good job. I get sex with 2-3 women a year by dating and they are average and I try to get in relationships and they put me through hell. I’m not going to have a horrible girlfriend for sex, if they try to control me I dump them and if I’m desperate, I spend 200-300, and I can tell you, most of these women choose to do this for the money and some enjoy it. Some are very low volume. I see a woman from the bar who does it with one guy a day after work to save money, saves 50k a year in an offshore account to one day buy a house because her main job, the money comes and goes. She enjoys it and only chooses decent guys. Your myth that no woman would do this by choice is idiotic. It shows a limited intelligence in that you are unable to imagine anyone making a different decision than you make and you speak in broad generalities.
The diamond line:
“Women claimed in the ’60s they’d be like men about sex but they aren’t, they put men through a lot to get it and don’t even consider the vast majority of men at all.”
Received on 26th April 2015:
The argument isn’t that they are different, the argument is sex should always be available at a certain price to men in a situation where women choose to accept that price, in a free market, like in Australia and Europe and Japan, nations ahead of us in having 1/10th the crime and imprisonment rates no death penalty (except Japan) and universal healthcare, as well as better education. If a man really needs it, he can work and get it, no man should every feel it is a hopeless dream to ever have sex with an attractive woman and rape occurs when it is a mysterious unattainable experience. No one should be trafficked and no one should be forced, but the market will set a price at which society can say to a rapist you idiot, you should have just spent money if you needed that, you are guilty of a crime of violence and hate and you are going away, if you just want sex it is available. No man wants to live without sex with someone they are attracted to. Women would pay if they had to but have a lower drive, but women can go out and get it any time so they don’t understand.
“..no man should every feel it is a hopeless dream to ever have sex with an attractive woman and rape occurs when it is a mysterious unattainable experience.”
Received on 26th April 2015:
“If you regret it, stop, don’t prevent women who would rather accept 2-400 for an hour instead of 80 for 8 hours in a cafe mopping from doing so. For some sex is no different than other things, but you fetishize it and find it traumatizing because you are biased by coming from the Judeo-Christian-Islanmic one God tradition making sex shameful. Monkeys left alone started prostitution for food. It is in our nature. If you had a bad experience, move on, no different from people who did a job for 5 years they hated then did another. You didn’t have to let men have sex with you for money. You chose to. Stop trying to shame everyone. This is why boys are doing so much worse than girls in school. When girls thrive they are heroes fighting sexism and boys are constantly told if they make jokes or hit on girls or stand up for themselves that they are bullies or perverts or violent, and lectured by females to act more like females all the while men who do so are generally treated as unworthy of sex by females who occasionally do have sex with guys who stand up to them, if they have looks or money. This whole thread is ridiculous. Stop lecturing people. Let every individual be free to make their own decisions whether or not you approve. I’ll say this, without prostitution there would be a lot more women in prison for violent offenses and a lot more homeless women and a lot fewer women graduating college or saving. If a woman is dumb enough to give the money to a pimp she should wise up, but many women spend the money on themselves and rightfully so. You are an anachronism. You are obsessed with controlling other people and this whole post is Orwellian to assume no one would rather have sex for a lot than work hard for a little, not that sex can’t be hard work, but you can choose it. I am a man and when I was in my early ’20s I was paid for sex by women 6 times, 3 women. It is rare because most women can get it on their own. 2 saw me once and 1 4 times. I don’t feel traumatized, I enjoyed some of it, and I made 1200 dollars instead of maybe 60 for the same amount of time. I have no resentment towards these women, zero. I chose it, they chose it. They were in their late ’40s and early ’50s. Your whole assumption is based on thinking sex is more than it is.”
Here it is:
“For some sex is no different than other things, but you fetishize it and find it traumatizing because you are biased by coming from the Judeo-Christian-Islanmic one God tradition making sex shameful.”
Received on 27th April 2015:
“So work has to be enjoyable? I have sure enjoyed thousands of hours making pizza, washing dishes, carrying things, mopping, and making sales calls. I think you choose to do work based on many factors. Enjoyment is one, pay is another, risk is another, along with doing good for others, a job being interesting, and other factors. If a job is harder, it is better paid. Police take some risk and deal with crap, so they get more than a similarly skilled job with no risk. Sex workers deal with something very personal. For one, only very attractive women have the opportunity to be well paid as sex workers, so the supply is limited. Most are sexually conventional and couldn’t comfortably make love to many men, though some sex workers just see maybe 5 a week, which at 200 per, would give you a good lifestyle through college. Many see 1 a week for a little extra, and some really go for volume, and some charge 300 or more. Some charge 400 and see one a day. That’s 100k a year with 2 days a week off.
Work isn’t defined by being enjoyable. Some jobs involve getting yelled at by the public, some involve filth. Your definitions are based on your accepting the Puritan view that sex is different than other things, that massaging a man’s back with your hands or making a car with your hands or making a sale with your mouth are acceptable, but massaging a penis with a mouth or vagina is somehow unnatural and sex should only be associated with biblical religiously acceptable love. With one night stands, some women have sex for attention, to spend time with a celebrity for a few minutes, for a trip, for a work advantage, and some are well off, plenty of 6 figure real estate saleswomen routinely will sleep with a man to get an exclusive. The thought that some would consider sex just an act which could be sold is beyond you. True, if all men decided they would only sleep with women after 3 dates or usually more, and only with 8 in a lifetime or 25 if they are hot, and 2-4 if they are below average, or 0 in some cases, it would stop. Yet if all women decided they’d never sell sex, it would too. Why do you think sex is such a big deal? It’s odd, you fetishize it. Some women wish to sell sex to earn more. Without sex, women would be homeless more and would also commit violent crimes more once desperate, or deal drugs. It’s odd that you view a transaction in which a man gives up significant cash as somehow a man exploiting or damaging or hurting a woman who chooses it.
A woman doesn’t enjoy working for $10 an hour making lattes and sandwiches and change and mopping and washing dishes. Is her boss exploiting her? Damaging her?
You have to ask why you view sex this way. For many young people sex is just a thing.”
And the winning line is:
“Your definitions are based on your accepting the Puritan view that sex is different than other things… massaging a penis with a mouth or vagina is somehow unnatural and sex should only be associated with biblical religiously acceptable love.”
Received on 9th May 2015:
“So should it only be legal to be a prostitute if you never did it before 18? How about drinking? Most people who drink started before 18. How about illegal drugs? Your line of reasoning is so clearly a result of misandry. Consenting adults can do what they want. And customers don’t feel entitled to a woman’s body. They pay a lot of money and a woman can make far more than for doing something else. Every woman is free to do another job. If men are lazy in school and quit jobs or get into expensive drugs, they end up homeless or in prison for risky/violent offenses. Women mostly turn to prostitution because it is better than trying to mug someone or being homeless. Some women can pay for college (sugardaddy.com is hugely popular, or seekingarrangements.com), save money, or live better, or have more free time as an artist.
Your language and reasoning are ridiculous and you clearly discriminate against those who don’t share your insane misandrist views, leaving posts as “awaiting moderation” indefinitely because you are afraid to debate anyone who disagrees with you and hide behind your power as blog moderator to censor opponents and create a false impression everyone agrees with you.
No one is entitled. Men who pay adults for sex are clearly desperate because women have not taken equal responsibility for seeking out sex. Men have to hit on women to have any chance because women don’t walk up to 95% of men and offer casual sex. I’m well above average looking and it’s happened to me a few times in a lifetime, but sex is a need. I get most sex by hitting on women, putting myself out there, something women never have to do. Women never have to pay because they can get sex any time. Some have even lobbied against female viagra and more women criticize other women for being promiscuous than men do by far, wanting to use sex to control men. Female viagra or equal treatment of both sexes, i.e. not calling a woman a slut and a man a stud, and women taking equal responsibility for seeking sex would undermine women’s ability to control men and whip men in marriages and relationships. Men are lectured for calling women sluts but women do it far more, most men wish women had our open sexual attitude.
Consenting adults should be able to do what they wish. Nearly the entire first world allows this. Women will never understand what it is like to desperately want or need sex and not be able to get it and have society treat you like a failure for not getting it.
If you are an adult and choose to sell sex you are not a victim and a man who chooses to pay an adult is not a predator. It is a victimless crime or if there is a victim, she chose it. Men are often victims, charged great deals of money for an act most species exchange freely and openly due to social control and religion. In the ’70s women claimed they would start being equal in seeking men, but 86% of men are judged by women to be below average on dating sites (vs. 63% of women so judged by men), so you have a vast majority of men who have an urge for 100 sexual partners and will be lucky to have 10 in a lifetime, and entertainment showing every male as having a lot of sex or uncool, and women far more open to it than they actually are.
Stop playing victim. You should have saved your money then you’d still be collecting dividends and benefitting. You are blaming others for your own choices and assuming because you regret it, all women must think like you and must be stopped or one day they’ll regret it. A lot of women don’t share your Puritan, anti-sex, anti-casual sex/sex for pleasure, misndrist philosophy. Thankfully so.
We need some age cutoff. Yes, it’s arbitrary, most 18 year olds are pretty immature. But some nations say 16, 17, 18, or 21. If you made it 21, prices would go up but there’d be a black market and some prostitutes who wish to save a million or two to have an easier life after prostitution, who actually have the discipline to save money so they don’t have a mortgage when they’re married with kids and have a degree, would lose 3 prime earning years. It’d be like making all NBA players be 21, you lose prime years.
And remember all the suffering males go through because we don’t have Fort Knox between our legs. 9 x the prison rate, violent and risky crimes, death committing robberies, 10 x the homeless rate, and remember men are the only ones who need sex and can’t get it. Men don’t feel entitled, but men who are treated as undatable by most women need a way to have it sometimes for life to feel worth living. The market decides that but currently, prostitutes with no education in most Cities make about as much as successful lawyers, and remember over half who pass the BAR never practice law and many others aren’t successful.”
Our Floyed really came into his own with this post. There are three remarks nominated here because I just couldn’t choose between them:
“Men who pay adults for sex are clearly desperate because women have not taken equal responsibility for seeking out sex. Men have to hit on women to have any chance because women don’t walk up to 95% of men and offer casual sex.”
“And remember all the suffering males go through because we don’t have Fort Knox between our legs.”
“Your line of reasoning is so clearly a result of misandry.”
Received on 21st May 2015:
“What is going unsaid is this is a blog based on the simple idea of men bad, women good. Maybe men who let themselves be controlled by women and are momogamous and drop everything when she’s in a bad mood asking for advice she won’t follow, but for the most part any man who stands up for himself, particularly a white man, is bad.
It may not go up, as this board is very censored, sometimes I have a post which claims to be awaiting moderation for months then disappears. However this is the truth if you have the nerve to let me speak.
These women are extremely irresponsible with their money. Any woman with discipline, business sense and savvy could save a million within 5 years if she ran an hour a day and any woman willing to just be with one guy a day she chooses can at the very least pay for a full college education.
However many women end up with a client like this because they get a good client and then turn him down a second time, someone who is clean, well paying and respectful of them as human beings. Many act very rude towards men who have just given them $200 who then won’t repeat with them. I always pay $200 but often get one who is very bad at it and doesn’t try and then I don’t repeat with them. When I’ve found one who is good, I see the same one for a year or two twice a month and we get comfortable.
Many waste money on drugs, don’t take good clients because they don’t feel like it and blow money on stupid things, then they have to take a bad date. They bring it on themselves.”
Here it is – dripping with Floyedesque entitlement:
“Many act very rude towards men who have just given them $200 who then won’t repeat with them.”
Received on 22nd May 2015:
“In America anyone can start at a Community College and transfer to a 4 year college with decent grades, even just passing. Prostitution provides many a chance to get college degree and that doubles your income. At least it ends in one generation and your kids have a college educated parent. Being lazy keeps you poor. It’s a chance for those who really want it to avoid truly debasing minimum wage work and while this may be tough work, it gives them freedom and an education. You can be enslaved, and you can be a lazy prostitute, but if you see a few guys a week even you can pay for a degree if you run an hour a day and stay hot. Men have less chance which is why far fewer poor men are going to college.”
Top marks for fantasy: (Floyed’s very partial to the oul bit of fantasy)
“Prostitution provides many a chance to get college degree and that doubles your income.”
Received on 23rd May 2015:
“Why does moderation take so long?
Here’s the thing. I’m nearly 45. I’m a lifelong sex addict who loves sex more than anything. In addition to paying probably 100 women, I’ve had sex with 49 women without paying. It’s getting harder but I will probably surpass 50, a feat that fewer than 1 in 20 American men achieve. I will not talk about the paid as I know you all assume the worst, but when you talk about enjoyment, here is my response.
I’ve had a few women at the right time and place jump into bed with me or waited several dates like 3-4 before trying a move because I hate being rejected so I wait for it to be nearly risk free, though you’d be surprised it’s never a sure thing even on a 3d or 4th date when they seem to like you. Some women love to reject guys and tell a story more than they love actual sex.
Sex is a naturally enjoyable act we are programmed to enjoy.
Now many times a woman makes you really talk her into it but finally agrees. All kinds of issues come up. Are you clean (no diseases), do you love me (I don’t believe in love and never lie about this), will you respect me (of course I judge no one based on sexuality and admire sex workers who actually save instead of end up broke for irresponsible reasons), are you good at it (very), etc. They put you through an hour or more of uncomfortable conversation and say they don’t always like one night stands, etc.
I am very hard working as a lover and dedicated. I am very good at oral and last a long time. I give a full body massage and over half an hour minimum of oral. I also do whatever they want how they want and explain this beforehand. They always end up enjoying it and having orgasms. They always call me again and want to get together even though it’s purely casual. They never ever complain.
So once you have sex, you enjoy it. I’m not talking about rape, no one would enjoy that. I’m talking about consensual sex.
The pay rate for prostitution is so high now many only see a client a day and would pick up a guy in a bar every day. It’s so common in the Bay Area it’s made it drastically harder for men to get a free one night stand as many women have the same amount of sex but charge for it. On the low end, you could sleep with 3 guys a week and charge 200, get regulars, and not be put out. You could hold a normal job and in 15 years make 450k, which if you can live off your main job, allows you to save and it would compound to 650-700k if put into stocks. You can pay off a college loan which drags on for life for many men, and chaste women, even into social security. You can buy a house which is almost impossible for many with a big down payment so your mortgage is smaller in a better neighborhood. That’s low end, most who do low volume can charge 250-400 and tips exist. Some could see 5 a week. Some go all out and see 30-40, but their rate goes down and their skill declines. But many have very low volume and are having the sex they would for free for money. Some are very picky on looks even when charging. Some pay for college this way.
So to say no women enjoy it you have to be all women. Many women enjoy it. Just because you take money, which is smart in my view, it doesn’t mean the ability to orgasm or neurons in your clitoris shut down.”
And here is where Floyed finally reveals the source of his angst with us sex trade surviving bloggers:
“I’m a lifelong sex addict who loves sex more than anything.”
Before impressing us all with the sheer “feat” of his sexual prowess:
“In addition to paying probably 100 women, I’ve had sex with 49 women without paying. It’s getting harder but I will probably surpass 50, a feat that fewer than 1 in 20 American men achieve.”
Before wrapping up by giving us women a biology lesson about our own bodies:
“Just because you take money, which is smart in my view, it doesn’t mean the ability to orgasm or neurons in your clitoris shut down.”
You see, Floyed, that is exactly the problem. Your having used our social vulnerabilities to buy access to our bodies doesn’t make our physical responses shut down. The intimate parts of our bodies, which you are paying to lick, suck, finger and fuck are just as sensitive as they ever were, and so because it is not possible to completely shut down the experiences of the body, we numb them with drugs and alcohol, and we dissociate ourselves psychologically, so that the traumatic experience of physical violation is not felt fully with the emotions or processed by the mind.
This, of course, leads to lifelong problems, for those of us lucky enough to have lives, because not all of us do Floyed. But then the astronomical suicide and drug overdose rates in prostitution really don’t matter, do they? I mean, at the end of the day, what on this planet could be more important than the rights of some men to pay to blow their load?